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nblyth	Collins Gone - Cupboard Getting Bare	Lead	[-]
Posts: 131 (10/29/09 10:57:25) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Tags : None I must agree on letting Saker and Ormond go during the season or the former at end of last season and now we say goodbye to Tudor and Collins. That leaves us ONLY Nel Dernbach Jordan Meaker Linley As seam bowlers at the club - during the last season and a bit we have brought in Batty (spinner), Chawla (Spinner), Davies (WK), Brown (Bat) and not one full time seamer which surely now is vital before next season. We cannot go in with Nel and Jade and Jordan as our only three seamers of any worth and all three of them have had injury issues of late. I am surprised Collins was not given at least a one year deal in case we dont get anyone else in. It seems to me Adams never rated him as he got very few chances under this regime and yet looking at his FC figures this year he was up there with the best bowlers in the club. I say one thing all the slow. poor fielders in the club have been weeded out esp Ormond, Collins, Murtaza, Tudor which surely will improve the one day side next year. Interesting to see who is brought in to bolster the seam attack and i wonder if someone is already lined up what with releasing these two today.
DukeofMilan		#1	[-]
Posts: 76 (10/29/09 12:59:14) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	All I can think Mr Blyth is that Mr Adams has his eye on a seamer or two. I agree, would be a high risk strategy to get rid of the disappointing Collins - especially if we sign someone who is no better. Talking of other aspects of the club - I wonder if there will be any discussion about the character of the pitch for next season and how it will be prepared. Given the weight of spinners we now have can I hazard a guess !
nblyth		#2	[-]
Posts: 132 (10/29/09 14:05:17) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Yes surely at least one seamer must be lined up for us i think that is a necessity what with the amount of cricket to be played and no Chawla til May probably. I heard interview with Adams the other day i think it was the Q&A thing on the site and he said there are consultations with the groundsman and committee about pitches going ahead to next year. I still say it is more to do with our bowling than the pitches as they always been flat yet we won titles with Saqlain,Solly and Bicknell as the mainstay of our attacks it just took discipline and big 1st innings totals of which we do neither. Not this year but certainly last other teams came and won at the oval !!! A little more help would be nice and i am sure they will be taking spin but remember what Warney said he would rather have bounce than spin if given a choice as for a leggie that is deadly and Chawla will get some pace and bounce at the oval i hope.
marcushook		#3	[-]
Posts: 91 (10/30/09 10:21:16) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	How many of us can honestly say that we should have kept faith with Collins, Ormond, Saker and Tudor? Chris Adams inherited a weak bowling attack in terms of both pace and spin. As I said in a recent post, we should be doing everything within our power to entice Kabir Ali to the Oval. Chris Tremlett is way too injury prone for my liking and Boyd Rankin is far from being the finished article.
DukeofMilan		#4	[-]
Posts: 77 (10/30/09 10:40:25) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	No - getting rid of those 4 was fair enough. I do have faith that C.Adams will get the right man/men.....
The wobbler		#5	[-]
Posts: 63 (10/30/09 10:45:44) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	What we would give for Robin Jackman/Martin Bicknell at one end and Sylvester Clarke/Waqar Younis at the other! In a way, I hope we don't sign anyone expensive in the seam department, but only if it's because the management have faith in the Surrey production line that has produced Dernbach, Jordan, Meaker, Jewell, Edwards and Dunn, and in the coaching staff who will transform them from promising youth to international stars of the not-too-distant future. Plus I don't rate Kabir Ali much either. Boyd Rankin has signed a 3-year contract extension at Warks. Tremlett on a pay-per-play deal would be ideal but it'll never happen.
Dougie Ginn		#6	[-]
Posts: 106 (10/31/09 02:15:22) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Glad to see the back of that bunch,can any of the youngsters be any worse than this crowd . I think Kabir Ali,would be a useful addition to our seam bowling attack or perhaps Hoggard !
nblyth		#7	[-]
Posts: 133 (10/31/09 03:14:17) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Guys i do not disagree with any of the comments above but you are missing the point - if Jade gets one of his injuries and jordan is as woeful as this year we would be left with no seamers to fill the spots...........we simply dont have the seamers at the club anymore and all I am saying is it may have been prudent to keep just one of the above for a year in case no one of sufficient class comes in. Lets face it everyone of those seamers left at the club got injured at some point last year and some more than others. It just worries me we will be going for the likes of Anyon on loan again to help cover us.
Flurdileze		#8	[-]
Posts: 55 (10/31/09 03:34:56) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I think we should sign a bowler in the twilight of his career but still effective for next season or two. Say a James Kirtley type. This will help the younger bowlers to develop and work with senior pro's. It will also help to cover for niggles so that they don't develop into injuries. I am pretty sure that the focus for next season will be on the Championship and less on the one day stuff. If we can get back into div 1 next season then we would be in a better position to attract another two or three good players should they be needed. Then we can start looking at the one day development.
marcushook		#9	[-]
Posts: 93 (11/02/09 10:21:35) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Talk of promotion seems overly optimistic to me. Surrey have won just one of their last 31 championship matches. The signings of Chawla and Davies are good news, but what I find disconcerting is that two of our "discards" have been handed THREE-year contracts elsewhere. There is one thing I am hoping 2010 brings - a Surrey side that can field. It is vital our (mainly) fresh-faced bowling attack is backed up in the field. So many of the catches Surrey have shelled in the last two seasons have been punished big-time.
Flurdileze		#10	[-]
Posts: 56 (11/02/09 23:26:02) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I don't think that Batty should be regarded as a 'discard'. Davies was signed with the future in mind and Adams was obviously aware that he could be tied up with England as reserve for Prior. This would have left Batty with a role to play for Surrey including opening when Davies was playing. I think that Batty wanted to end his career as no. 1 wicket keeper and therefore has made the decision to move on. Am pretty sure that Adams hoped he would stay but has not made him honour his contract and has allowed his release. Sad but things have to move on.
marcushook		#11	[-]
Posts: 94 (11/03/09 09:32:44) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	But the article in the Surrey Advertiser the other day suggested that JB had been forced out.
Flurdileze		#12	[-]
Posts: 57 (11/03/09 11:05:13) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Batty was given a contract extension through to the end of 2010 which suggests that he was part of Adams immediate plans. However, he is 35 and cannot go on forever therefore when a wicket keeper/batsman of the quality of Davies became available Adams had to take the opportunity. This does not mean that Batty did not have a role with Surrey, as discussed previously, but maybe it was one he was not able to take on if he felt 'driven out' by the signing of Davies. I wish he had stayed, but hope he is happy at Gloucestershire.

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